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Live Blog: Third Party Presidential Debate

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Gary Johnson, Libertarian Party candidate, during the debate.

Welcome to Christian Post's coverage of tonight's Third Party Presidential Debate hosted by Larry King. This debate is sponsored by Christina Tobin's organization Free and Equal. The candidates participating in tonight's debate are:

  • Gary Johnson - Libertarian Party
  • Jill Stein - Green Party
  • Rocky Anderson - Justice Party
  • Virgil Goode - Constitution Party

The following sentences in this live blog are a summary of the candidates' statements.

Larry King:

Each candidate will have time to make a two minutes respond to the question. Audience applause is allowed.

Opening statement: Two of the candidates lean to the left and two lean to the right. No matter what your political beliefs we need to take back our country.

Christina Tobin:

Only the top two candidates from primaries are allowed in some primaries. What is your position on Top Two?

Stein:

Top Two degrades the meaning of the political parties. Whoever has the biggest budget is mostly to win the primary. We oppose Top Two and want to increase democracy and getting money out of politics by opening up the airwaves to all candidates and money is not speech and corporations are not persons.

Anderson:

Our democracy is so degraded by these two parties and by getting ballot access. Our system doesn't give candidates a choice. Both candidates from last night's debate neither talked about getting rid of the drug war or confronting climate change.

Goode:

I am not for public financing and giving taxpayer money to the Democrat and Republican parties. The Top Two is primarily a states rights issue and we need to work in each state to stop it to prevent politics from being controlled by Super PACs.

Johnson:

I've always been pro-choice on everything. Top Two should be stopped at the local and state level. Medicaid is not sustainable.

King:

Now each candidate can make a one minute response.

Stein:

My running mate and I were arrested and tied to chairs for 8 hours in attempting to get open debates.

Anderson:

Top Two is strangling our democracy and in federal elections it is a federal issue. All the corrupting money from oil companies and military prevent democracy.

Goode:

No Political Action Committees. We need to vote for 3rd parties.

Johnson:

I think we need 100% transparency. We find ourselves with a heightened police state. There is a reason we shouldn't be using drones. We are going to find ourselves in an unsustainable financial system leading to economic collapse.

King:

I didn't know we were having opening statements and then we'll go to 2nd question.

Stein:

American people are in crisis losing homes, jobs and the wealthy are wealthier and the political system is making it worse while they spend money on wars. We need to take back our democracy. We need choices that are not paid for by Wall Street. Our campaign is calling for a Green New Deal, health care as a human right and bailouts of students.

Anderson:

We've all suffered from the sellout of our country to Wall Street. Wall Street fatcats are buying our elections. Our poverty has never been so high since 1965. American has a high rate of women dying from pregnancies. The Constitution has been shredded.The Pentagon is warning that climate change is a greater threat than terrorism.

Goode:

The Obama Budget and Paul Ryan Budget are not balanced budgets. I will submit a balanced budget. I am for moratorum on green cards while unemployment is so high. I am for ending PACs and for term limits.

Johnson:

We should not bomb Iran. We should end the war in Afghanistan tomorrow. Marriage equality is a constitutional right. Let's end the drug wars and legalize marijuana now. Let's repeal the Patriot Act. I would never sign the NDAA. I promise to submit a balanced budget with $1.3 trillion in spending cuts. I'm the only candidate that wants to abolish the IRS and institute the fair tax.

King:

Your positions on the drug war.

Anderson:

I saved a person from spending a decade for selling drugs. There are mandatory gun enhancements that resulted in a man getting a 55 year sentence for three marijuana infractions. We have the largest incarceration rate. We have more people in prison on drug offenses than all of Europe has in prison.

Goode:

I would cut spending on the drug war. This is primarily a state rights issue. I am not for legalizing marijuana use. Drug war is a small percentage of total government spending.

Johnson:

Most of the drug problems are prohibition related, not use related. Let's regulate and tax it. It is on the ballot in Colorado. Denver residents voted to decriminalize marijuana. It is not more dangerous than alcohol. Yet we are arresting 1.8 million annually on drugs. This not about advocating drug use. This does not belong in the criminal justice system.

Stein:

As a medical doctor I can say that marijuana is dangerous because it is illegal. The dangerous exist because of the drug trade and prohibition. On day one a president could instruct the DEA to use science to determine what drugs are controlled. There are no bad health effects for hemp. It should be legalized.

Anderson:

Hemp, why is that illegal? It should be legalized now. I would pardon people with drug offenses if they hadn't committed other crimes.

Johnson:

Methamphetamine is safer than cocaine. Cocaine creates holes in the heart.

Goode:

I'm not for legalizing drugs.

King:

What should be the role of the military?

Goode:

We cannot increase military spending. Our bases need to be reduced and America should stop being the overseerer of the world.

Johnson:

The operative word is "defense" not nation building. We are going bankrupt. I would propose a 43% cut on military spending and stop with the military interventions. We stop with the drone strikes. We have enemies because of these policies. We pick winners and losers and funding Jihadists in Syria.

Stein:

War for oil is making us less secure. Put an end to the use of drones and permanently ban the use of drones. Dropping bombs on weddings and funerals does not win the hearts of people in the Middle East. We need a policy based on human rights.

Anderson:

Eisenhower warned this nation about the military industrial complex that fund military projects that we do not use. Republicans and Democrats vote for funding while our treasure is being wasted. No wars of aggression. If you haven't been attacked or an enemy is planning to attack, then it is an illegal military action. The president does not have the power to declare war.

Goode:

I would only send troops to Syria if Congress approved it.

Johnson:

I believed that Afghanistan was warranted because we were attacked but should have got out 11 years ago. We should not attack Iran or we will have enemies we shouldn't have.

King:

How do provide opportunity of college education to everyone.

Johnson:

We started lottery scholarships. Guaranteed government student loans are responsible for the high costs and universities are immune from pricing controls. If students would hold out, the prices would come down. This is one of government's unintended consequences.

Stein:

It is time to make higher education free. We provided free education through the G.I. bill after World War 2. We provided a free education to high school students because of economic security. Instead of bailing out Wall Street with QE3 we should bail out the students.

Anderson:

For America to become competitive again we must provide free equal education in colleges and technical schools. This is not a radical idea. It is used around the world. Congress does not allow someone to write off student debt during bankruptcy.

Goode:

We can't afford Pell Grants and Student Loans at this time. We must balance the budget.

Johnson:

Free comes with a cost. Free is accumulating more to the $16 trillion debt. 43 cents of every dollar is spent on the national debt. This must stop. Free must stop.

Anderson:

I disagree with Johnson and Goode. We must have free education and must get behind our young with a first class education.

Stein:

I am agreeing with Rocky. Our younger generation is the greatest resource we have. The economy needs to be rebooted every generation with new ideas.

Goode:

Mitt Romney and Barack Obama also support more money for higher education.

King:

Where do you stand on NDAA?

Stein:

NDAA is dictatorial and an offense to American liberty and should be repealed. We must also repeal the President's interpretation of the 2001 enforcement act that allows the president to order assassinations. We need to end unnecessary wiretaps a repeal the Patroit Act and end the persecution of whistleblowers. Let's take back our liberty.

Anderson:

I went to law school because I believed in the rule of law. What we have seen through the Bush years and Obama has been subversive. In 2009 Obama asked for the power to detain people without habeas corpus. If one person can determine how these laws are applied, that leads to tyrrany.

Goode:

If I were president, I would have vetoed NDAA.

Johnson:

I would have vetoed NDAA. Last December the ACLU came out with a presidential report card. Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum had zero liberty torches out of 24. Ron Paul had 18 and Gary Johnson had 21 liberty torches out of 24.

King:

6th and final question: If you had the opportunity to pass one constitutional amendment, what would it be?

Anderson:

An Equal Rights Amendment that prohibits sexual discrimination.

Goode:

Term Limits - if we don't adopt term limits we will always have a Congress that is focused on their re-election. You would have to grandfather the candidates in now.

Johnson:

Term Limits: We need to balance the budget. I am proof that term limits work. I had 8 years in New Mexico. The final term is all about doing the right thing.

Stein:

Even with term limits corporations will still buy the politicians. I want to clarify that corporations are not people and money is not speech. Corporations have taken away our personhood.

King:

You will have two minutes for closing statements.

Goode:

Open up the process. Balance budget now. Jobs in America for American citizens. Moratorium on green cards. Political Action Committes eliminated and all funds only from individuals. Work for term limits too.

Johnson:

I wouldn't be here if I didn't think I could do a good job. I have been an entreprenuer. I sold that company in 1999. Then I was elected as governor and made a name vetoing legislation. It made a difference in spending. Let's make it as easy as possible for immigrants to work with work visas. A wasted vote is voting for someone you do not believe in.

Stein:

There are 90 million voters not voting in this election. Those are voters saying no to the Republican and Democratic Parties. There are 36 million students and recent graduates that if they go to the polls and vote for bailing out students instead of the banks, we could turn politics on its head. There is a joice to take back our democracy.

Anderson:

We know the Republicans and Democrats have some differences but they've denied some human rights. They never talk about breaking the stranglehold of the military industrial complex or dealing with climate change. Neither Obama or Romney are talking about the corrupting influence of money on politics.

King:

I've always believed in free speech. We have a way of saluting you for getting in the fray and thanking Christina.

Christina Tobin:

I want to thank Larry King and my producers. How many people want to see a second debate? At Free and Equal we are holding a debate next week in Washington D.C. You can go online tonight to vote at Free and equal. The top two candidates will participate in a foreign policy debate.

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